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8:13 PM

Ah, nuts. I was trying to be productive this evening, but it's too coooooooooold. So I'm sitting with lighted candles (visual warmth), huddling up to my laptop (physical warmth), and asking stupid questions (er... psychological warmth?):

Comment here and ask me ANYTHING about any fandom I'm involved in/have been involved in, or fandom in general. Controversial or innocent, silly or serious, ask and you'll get my honest opinion on the subject [to the best of my knowledge/ability].

So (in no particular order) that's Stargate SG-1, X-Men, Doctor Who, Robin of Sherwood, X-Files, Blake's Seven, Sapphire & Steel, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., The Magnificent Seven, Buffy, Star Trek (original and TNG), The Mummy, Black Books... and a bunch of other stuff that I can't remember offhand, but surely that's enough to be going on with? If I've mentioned it, feel free to ask about it.

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holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 10th, 2007 09:39 pm (UTC)

He was a very sickly child, son of a rich 19th century landowner. He wore frills. :)

I did not know that. *grins at the image presented*

I forgot, for a moment, when I asked that question, about the, ah...mutability...of canon inside X-Men. Nevertheless, it's surprising how well the characters stay in character, over time and generally. (Speaking from outside, mind you.)

Joss Whedon is seriously brilliant. I definitely think he's got a finger on a secret stash of awesome. I watched Buffy for the first couple of seasons, and then missed some, so I was very surprised at how the characters had shifted--but looking back and having filled in bits, I can see how it worked out. :-D

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pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 10th, 2007 09:52 pm (UTC)

Yeah, X-Men has a whole warship's worth of canons. Facts change as and when it's convenient. It's one of the reasons I gave up reading the comics - it drove me mildly nuts. But yes, the characters mostly seem to stay the same, sort of. Well, the main ones. Most of them. Sort of. Actually, Rogue changed a heck of a lot...

Yes to Joss Whedon. I don't know many shows that allow that much change in their characters. Stargate doesn't really - okay, it has some change, but overall they're not half as screwed up as they should be. IMO.

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holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 10th, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC)

Stargate doesn't really - okay, it has some change, but overall they're not half as screwed up as they should be. IMO.

Oddly enough, this is one of the things I find charming about the show, as well as frustrating.

(Rogue--oh, boy. I totally loved her. I did get into the fandom about the movies--but I read just about every Rogue story I could get my hands on. Which is probably only a fraction of the stories out there. Yeah. I think she appealed to my inner angst-whore).

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holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 10th, 2007 11:05 pm (UTC)

I suppose I ought to say that my actual primary source for X-Men was the cartoon. The 80's one. I loves it.

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pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 10th, 2007 11:29 pm (UTC)

Ah, I didn't watch the cartoon until after I'd seen the film. That was my first X-Men experience. Rogue is my very close second favourite. She has the angstiest mutation ever omg.

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holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 10th, 2007 11:44 pm (UTC)

Oh, yes. There were lots of angsty fannish stories in my head that were completely her fault. And maybe a bit of time thinking jealously about her ability to do anything and how she could totally be the most powerful mutant evar. And maybe also some ruminations over whether I liked her better with Gambit or Wolverine (even in the movies, which is probably totally wrong, but...oh well).

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pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 11th, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)

I wanted the film Rogue to get some of the powers she had in the comics / cartoon - because she had a few trials, but I love the whole storyline of how she acquired the flying and invulnerability permanently, and accidentally sort-of killed Wolverine's friend in the process. Angst heaven!

And, yes, movie Wolverine/Rogue, wrong... but when she grows up a little... He's over 100, so a few years for him won't make any difference...

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holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:

Dec. 11th, 2007 12:08 am (UTC)

when she grows up a little... He's over 100, so a few years for him won't make any difference...

Exactly! And I agree about the movie Rogue. Very...innocent, comparatively.

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