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Aug. 8th, 2007

  • 4:27 PM
pepper: Pepperpot (Bite me)
Well, all I can say is, it sucks to be asleep when all the fun stuff happens. I might not have posted this anyhow, even had I been able to (the original post now seems to have been bahleeted, I guess because sticking your fingers in your ears and humming loudly solves a whole slew of problems), because I suspect it would have been rather wasted - but I put a lot of effort into it, so I'm posting it here instead.

 
Oh, I don't know about 'Fail' – you might just have scraped through. Let's break down your marks and see:

  • Historical and cultural knowledge: F, I'm afraid. "It's just a joke," isn't really an excuse for ignorance.
  • Openness to change: Again an F, unfortunately – it may have escaped your notice, but some of these responses were calm, rational explanations as to why people found your competition and/or community offensive, and why it perpetuated a problem sadly common in fandom. Most of them weren't personal attacks, and maybe you need to be willing to listen and learn, and admit you might have done something wrong. (This may go some way towards explaining your repeat appearances on fandom_wank.)
  • Understanding of humour: Hm, nope, still F – may I suggest you have a look at Freud's 'Jokes And Their Relation To The Unconscious'? It won't make you funnier, but it might give you a better understanding of why you use humour to express your negativity.
It's not looking so good… Let's look at some other subjects:

  • Understanding of irony: F for the practical – your use of icons clearly demonstrates an almost Morissette-esque grasp of the subject.
  • Creativity: C! At least you're writing fanfic. It could be worse – you could actually have an influence beyond the 16 (at time of typing this) members of your community.
 Oh dear, you may well be about to fail… Let's try one last one:

  • Debating: I'm sorry, it's an F again. Arguing points that people haven't made, such as "You should love all SG-1 and SGA characters", is really not a valid debating method. Neither is changing horses mid-stream. If you hate the character because you think she'll interfere with your pairing of choice, stick to that (as lame as it is), and don't try to pass it off as criticism of the way the character was written.
Well, there you go: unfortunately, even with that one C grade, you still FAIL.
 
If you can answer the following resit questions, clearly and concisely, and without resorting to defensiveness and sophistry, you may scrape a pass:

  1. Illustrate how Sam has been measurably more badly-written or inconsistent than the other main characters on SG-1 or SGA. Or any other show.
  2. Demonstrate your knowledge of the historical and socio-political issues of feminism, and its relationship with popular media. Additional points are given if you can explain why, if Horatio Caine is "one of the worst written ego-cententric [sic] male characters on television," he's not been honoured with a comm.
  3. Show how you are being fair and reasonable in your dislike of Sam, and how it has nothing to do with the fear that she will somehow interfere with a fictional relationship between your favourite pairing.
  4. Explain why having multiple comms dedicated towards the death of characters you don't like makes it that much more acceptable. Is it quantity that matters?
  5. Explain in what way it is rational to feel this amount of vitriol towards a character who hasn't yet appeared as a regular on your show.


(Do I get an A for effort? *looks appealing* I know I get an F for timing. :(



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ext_3314: Woman writing (Default)
[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 8th, 2007 08:03 pm (UTC)
You were. And very reasonable, even when she refused to see your point.

Last thing I saw over there, just before it got deleted, she'd posted a whinge about Sam fans bringing all their friends over to personally attack her. Apparently she was reading a different comm to the one I read.
ext_2131: picture of a fish with lots of green (Default)
[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 8th, 2007 08:07 pm (UTC)
I...kinda wish the post had stayed. It was encouraging the number of non-Sam fans who went, "You are dumb."

Although I'll give her the majority were people who at least liked Sam a little.

Including me.
ext_3314: Woman writing (Default)
[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 8th, 2007 08:28 pm (UTC)
But the question is, do you think she's dumb because you like Sam, or because she's actually dumb? I suspect the latter.

You (and I) are probably more likely to comment because you like Sam, but you weren't irrational because of that.
ext_2131: picture of a fish with lots of green (Default)
[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 8th, 2007 09:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I like Sam, but I really don't like Lana at all, and find that community as offensive. (Well, mostly. I'll admit to some prejudice in Sam's favor over Lana).

What I will say is that I find the *idea* of such a community distasteful.

And she *was* pretty dumb for not being able to acknowledge her own prejudices.

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