There was a (Sam/Jack) Stargate writer on ff.net who took her stuff down fairly recently, and has seemingly disappeared, making a few people sad that they couldn't read her fics any more. Luckily, some people (including me) had her stuff saved to their computers, and could share it. When I first got into Stargate, I would save fics to my harddrive, mainly because I wasn't on broadband at home, so had to download stuff and read it offline. I have a fair amount of stuff archived from then (mainly Sam/Jack, but not entirely). I've been thinking about that. And now I'm going to ramble in your flists about it.
I was thinking about an author's rights over their work, and how that works with the internet. See, thirteen years ago (good god), I was posting my first fanfics to the interweb, and back then, I used my real name. It still comes up when I google myself, because it got archived on a website. Did I give permission? I can't recall, to be honest. I did email them, a couple of years back, to ask them to take it down, but they didn't, nor did they reply. The email I used to post it has long since been deactivated, so I don't know how I'd go about proving that I am the author.
(It's even more irksome because the formatting has disappeared--I didn't know that I needed to turn off SmartQuotes at the time, so all those apostrophes and speechmarks have vanished. That probably bugs me the most, to be honest. I don't want people thinking my grammar was bad! *g* It's probably contributed to the way I obsessively switch off of most of Word's bloody annoying automatic correction things on almost every computer that falls into my hands.)
Every now and then that fic makes me paranoid. What if potential employers do a search for my name? What if my work colleagues look me up? My friends and family mostly know and don't give a damn that I wrote and still write fanfic, so I'm not worried about them. Solutions to my particular story problem have occurred to me as I write--I may email them and ask them to just change the author name. If I can get into a dialogue with them, hopefully I can convince them that I am me. Hell, I may even offer them a properly formatted version. I'm happy for it to be up there, just not under my name.
So, when I was offering my saved copies of someone's fics, I felt a little guilty. I don't know the circumstances under which she decided to take the stuff down. Do I have the right to effectively act as an archivist? Then again, if someone has read her stuff and wants to re-read it, is there any point in them not having it? Clearly they already remember the author's name and something about their stories. And I'm forever remembering lines from books, or from fanfics, and having to trace them because I really want to remember the rest--losing this stuff permanently drives me bananas.
I'm mostly just rambling here, and really not trying to come up with a definitive answer--I'm sure it's different for everyone who puts work out there. Some people are savvy from the start, and always use an alias. Some people don't care if the world and its brother knows they wrote Mulder-and-Scully-as-kids fic. Some people are highly protective of where and how their work appears, and some people just send their work off into the ether with a pat on the back and their best wishes.
What do you guys think? When an author has clearly tried to wipe their work from the internet, is sharing it a bad thing? Under what circumstances is it bad--and when is it fine? Is anyone who tries to remove anything from the Net just kidding themselves that it'll ever disappear? Because, seriously--I never thought my story would still be around, thirteen years later.
On the other side of the fence, how would you feel if someone shared your stories with other people, even after you'd withdrawn it? Would you feel like they really loved your stuff, or would you be annoyed that people weren't respecting your boundaries? Is there anything you do--or wish you'd done, or would advise new fanfic writers to do--to make it clear how you feel about how your stories get distributed?
(It's even more irksome because the formatting has disappeared--I didn't know that I needed to turn off SmartQuotes at the time, so all those apostrophes and speechmarks have vanished. That probably bugs me the most, to be honest. I don't want people thinking my grammar was bad! *g* It's probably contributed to the way I obsessively switch off of most of Word's bloody annoying automatic correction things on almost every computer that falls into my hands.)
Every now and then that fic makes me paranoid. What if potential employers do a search for my name? What if my work colleagues look me up? My friends and family mostly know and don't give a damn that I wrote and still write fanfic, so I'm not worried about them. Solutions to my particular story problem have occurred to me as I write--I may email them and ask them to just change the author name. If I can get into a dialogue with them, hopefully I can convince them that I am me. Hell, I may even offer them a properly formatted version. I'm happy for it to be up there, just not under my name.
So, when I was offering my saved copies of someone's fics, I felt a little guilty. I don't know the circumstances under which she decided to take the stuff down. Do I have the right to effectively act as an archivist? Then again, if someone has read her stuff and wants to re-read it, is there any point in them not having it? Clearly they already remember the author's name and something about their stories. And I'm forever remembering lines from books, or from fanfics, and having to trace them because I really want to remember the rest--losing this stuff permanently drives me bananas.
I'm mostly just rambling here, and really not trying to come up with a definitive answer--I'm sure it's different for everyone who puts work out there. Some people are savvy from the start, and always use an alias. Some people don't care if the world and its brother knows they wrote Mulder-and-Scully-as-kids fic. Some people are highly protective of where and how their work appears, and some people just send their work off into the ether with a pat on the back and their best wishes.
What do you guys think? When an author has clearly tried to wipe their work from the internet, is sharing it a bad thing? Under what circumstances is it bad--and when is it fine? Is anyone who tries to remove anything from the Net just kidding themselves that it'll ever disappear? Because, seriously--I never thought my story would still be around, thirteen years later.
On the other side of the fence, how would you feel if someone shared your stories with other people, even after you'd withdrawn it? Would you feel like they really loved your stuff, or would you be annoyed that people weren't respecting your boundaries? Is there anything you do--or wish you'd done, or would advise new fanfic writers to do--to make it clear how you feel about how your stories get distributed?

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And I concluded that though I think it would be wrong to actually archive an author's work somewhere if they were determined to delete them, nevertheless, since they had been out on the internet for some years, it's surely not wrong if people who were smart enough to download them, shared them with other fans who had previously read them, but had not saved them for themselves. So that's msy opinion.
Then after reading other comments here, I decided to google my own (pretty unusual) full name, and see what happened. I was somewhat surprised to find several, and they were all really me. A mixture: some fan stuff (I had apparently commented on a fic signing my full name, and I was quoted in some sort of overview of ST fandom which quoted part of a letter from me and a fan friend written to Interstat, a letterzine from Star Trek days, long before the internet made fan communication so quick and easy.), some real life, from when I quit my job (a library magazine said I was fired, along with a coworker for refusing to work Sundays on religious grounds. False--I quit because the new director was horrible and I decided Life's Too Short--but Connie did later get fired for that reason, sued the library and 3 years later, she won her case and was reinstated, so good for her), and some real space things I've supported. So googling yourself can be interesting.
Although one thing I did discover during the library debacle is that you should assume any email you ever write could be shown to the world at some point. I wrote an email to a coworker on her home account, but she answered it at the library computer and this nasty boss managed to print out every email written or received at that time, so 3 years later, during Connie's trial, it was shown to the world. Ack!
Melissa M.