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So worth risking the curse.

  • Jan. 17th, 2008 at 2:57 PM
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Wow. Amazing. Completely worth it. I wasn't disappointed at all by the absence of Tutankhamun's famous mask –the collection was huge and gorgeous enough on its own. I did have a few Stargate squees, mainly at the canopic jars, but mostly I was just awestruck by how amazing these things looked – how precious and detailed. Some museum exhibits look as though they'd have been about as precious to their owners as my tea mug is to me – they're fascinating because, to someone X amount of years ago, they were ordinary. This stuff, though, had the look of objects that someone would want to take with them into the afterlife. Ceremonial, elegant, beautiful. On the whole, of no practical use.

It was a very odd feeling to look at 3,200-year-old brushstrokes on one of the painted boats. There's an strange feeling of connection when you look at something painted and see where the line wobbles slightly because their hand got tired, or because someone spoke to them, or because they lost focus for a moment, thinking about what was for dinner. The items that were flawless were completely amazing, but there's something human about those tiny errors.

Having said that, I think the item I loved most was this long-handled fan:

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It doesn't look like a fan, but it has holes all around the top edge that would originally have held ostrich feathers. The scene on this side is of Tutankhamun hunting ostriches, and on the reverse is him returning home in triumph, his servants carrying the ostriches he's killed. What I love most about it is the Egyptian habit of putting legs on things. In the left corner, just about visible in this picture, is a tiny ankh, with little legs, running along behind Tut's carriage with a long-handled fan.

(Years ago, I went to Egypt. I asked about one particular hieroglyph on a pillar somewhere, a little feather with legs, and was told that the feather is an 'i' sound, and the legs mean that it's an "active" word. The little legs are on this page – D 54 and 55. The feather is H6.)

I stayed for two hours. I would have stayed for longer, but it was after work, mid-week, with a long journey home. (And they're stiffing us on the DVD price, Aurora - £25! Sucks. I got one anyway.)

Oh, and has anyone ever included shabti in a fic? I'm sure I vaguely remember having read something with them... They're little figures, put in a tomb to do the dead person's work in the afterlife.

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If not, they should totally be written about. As should some Goa'uld skilled workers (scientists, like the woman in Double Jeopardy, or killers, like the Ashrak). And Jack's reaction to people who think the Air Force is soft (as in majorsamfan's recent post). And the fact that Abydos (as in the real-life place in Egypt) is associated principally with Osiris. Just putting these ideas out there, for anyone to grab...

A few last pics – the stopper of a canopic jar (the jar itself is missing, I guess – hah!), an unguent jar with Tut personified as a lion with an adorable pink tongue, and a box in the shape of a cartouche, with Tut's name on.

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Pictures borrowed from allposters.com, without permission. 

Comments

[identity profile] jeanieofoz.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
i have a vague feeling that i have seen the canopic jar lid in a Nat. Geo. article on Tut. I think that this one was part of a set of four that stoppered a four chambered chest instead of separate jars. there may have been a reason why the whole chest and other three stoppers couldn't be part of the exhibition. but that is just a vague memory...
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 03:51 pm (UTC)
It could well be the case - I just read that it said "lid of canopic jar", and immediately my mind was filled with the idea of escaped symbiotes... *g*
[identity profile] grooni.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
So totally fascinating. Years ago I visited the Egyptian Museum in Cairo and it was so cool. I saw Tutankhamun's mask and the actual mummy and *so* fascinating. The museum was huge though, you could've spent a week in there.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 03:59 pm (UTC)
Ah, that's very cool - I'd love to go there. I've been to Tut's tomb in the Valley of the Kings, and now I've seen the treasures (or some of them, anyhow - I take it there's loads more in the museum?) - some day I need to complete the triumvirate and go see the damn mummy. *g*
[identity profile] grooni.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 04:32 pm (UTC)
I've never been to the Valley of Kings. But it's still on the list. :)
They have a ton of stuff at the museum and lots to see, but there was no AC except in the special exhibit for Tutankhamon. Outside temps were over 40C and it was pretty hot inside too. Still worth every sweaty drop.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
Yikes. It wasn't very hot when I went, but then it was winter. It was hot as compared to winter at home.

I'd love to go again, because I didn't quite appreciate it when I was there. Partly because I had bad food poisoning, and partly because we were on a guided tour, which is a lousy way to see a country. Never again. Plus someone on the boat fell in love with me in a terrifying, stalkerish way, and freaked me the hell out. (I was 16 and had no idea how to cope with phonecalls in the middle of the night, crying and telling me he was going to leave all his books to me.)
[identity profile] grooni.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 06:48 am (UTC)
Oh eek! How creepy is that?!
[identity profile] beanpot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 04:44 pm (UTC)
Wasn't it awesome? I saw it when it was in Philly and loved it. Even with the crowds.

But I'm telling you - Lewis Hamilton F1 Driver looks exactly like Nefertiti. It is eerie.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:03 pm (UTC)
Heh, he does a bit. Not in a bad way - she's sculpted as quite a strong-featured, sort of masculine woman.
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[identity profile] aurora-novarum.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:16 pm (UTC)
25 pounds! You was robbed! But I hope you liked it anyway.

I was fascinated with that gold plated box that had such tiny engravings both inside and outside of it.

Oh, and that footstool that Tut had in his tomb that he really used and sat on as a child. It made them seem like "real people" to me, not just historical figures. Like they kept things for sentimentality just like we would.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, yes, those were lovely, too. It's funny to think of the people deciding what he'd need/want to take with him - making some of the stuff, but including other stuff because it was good, or because the king liked it, or whatever reason. "That was his first throne - he must have that. And that was his favourite crown..."

And yeah, I was robbed! But I'm glad to have it. I haven't watched it yet - was too tired when I got home. I'll probably have a look at it this weekend.
[identity profile] sg1danny.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:38 pm (UTC)
Ah I wish I had the time and money to take the train trip down to London, just to see this.

Thank you for posting the pics and your thoughts. At least I can virtual visit this way.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
Aw. Well, I...

*is distracted by icon*

...What was I saying? Oh, yeah - maybe you'll get to see it sometime - it's been around 3,200 years, so...

*is distracted again*

...Damn. What is it about that icon? Er. Anyhow. I think some of it might be stuff that's on display in places like the British museum (it's not all from Tut's tomb), so the Egyptian rooms there are a good substitute. :)
[identity profile] supplyship.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:41 pm (UTC)
Beautiful and fascinating - thanks for sharing your experience with us! The shabti are so cool; I agree, someoneyou should write fic about them!

Have to use my Hathor icon here ;)
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
There was a giant sarcophagus in one of the rooms - I half-expected herself to step out of it. *g*

I'm sure I've seen the shabti mentioned in fic somewhere... Wish I could remember where. They'd be excellent as little automatons, built to do the Goa'uld's bidding, or something.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
There's a brief shabti mention in "Scotoma", in case that's what you're thinking of. But yes, people should do cool things with them in fic!

As should some Goa'uld skilled workers (scientists, like the woman in Double Jeopardy, or killers, like the Ashrak).

*nods fervently* We only ever really see the Goa'uld who are busy doing the God thing. But clearly there have to be a lot of individual lower-ranking Goa'uld doing the skilled work, especially since the Jaffa seem to be kept in enforced scientific ignorance.

And that's interesting personality-wise; I mean, you can't really be all, "BOW BEFORE YOUR GOD!" when you're Minor Tech Support Goa'uld *g*.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:40 pm (UTC)
Well, tech support are always a law unto themselves - they don't care who the head honcho is supposed to be; they have their own ideas about what constitutes power. (We were having a little discussion about Goa'uld workers, here (http://community.livejournal.com/redial_the_gate/26841.html?thread=479193#t479193).) We have techs at my work who act like minor deities. :)

Ooh, - I took a look, and I've not read Scotoma. Sam and Sha're! I must go read now, 'scuse me...
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[personal profile] aelfgyfu_mead wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 06:05 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the photos and write-up! Very cool!
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:42 pm (UTC)
I find if I write these things up, I remember them much better - so this LJ thing is a good way of aiding my terrible memory. :)
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
Awesome! I wish I were less museum-challenged and went to more of the exhibits here...
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
You should! I don't go to exhibitions much - I always mean to, but I never get around to it. But I really wanted to go to this, seeing as people still talk about the last time it came here. :)
[identity profile] aoife-hime.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 11:24 pm (UTC)
*flails*

Holy crap, that's incredibly sweet! You're so lucky to have seen that. I was really interested in getting to more museums and such in London while I was over there, but never got back up to London (for various reasons).
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 10:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, when I heard it was coming, I knew I had to see it.

You're getting to see a lot of the world at the moment! Tokyo, wow... :)
[identity profile] quarryquest.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 6th, 2008 07:49 pm (UTC)
The stopper to Tut's canopic stuff was the top of a box which had four such heads and the canopic coffins (the thing on the posters) went in the box with the heads to close their slots.

I am doing a Daniel and doing some work this summer for a Children's University based round that exhibition. I'm their main thing, trying to teach the kids about heiroglyhs. I really must get myself to the Dome to have a look, although I do have a Powerpoint presentation (Sam would love it!) on it I was given to help me do my preparation.


You asked if someone has put a Shabti in a fic - well I sort of have. I'm writing a long complicated SG1 / CSI:NY (yes I KNOW)fic and had Danny and Daniel bonding over a shabti in Dr J's office. Its based on the one in the handling collection at the Horniman Museum in south London which I had the honour of playing with a while back.

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