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Some things about me.

  • Feb. 1st, 2010 at 12:01 PM
pepper: Woman writing (Writing)
This began as my take on the latest fannish wibble, but somehow turned into my fandom manifesto. Will crosspost to LJ when I get on, this evening.


1. I don't believe slash has access to a deep, underlying truth that het and gen are somehow missing, and that someday, if I'm a very good girl and eat all my greens, I'll understand.

2. I don't believe that het is always indisputably right and canonical. Heteronormative happens.

3. I don't believe that gen is the only proper and unbiased way to read a show (not that I've run across gen people who say that, but you know – for the sake of equality. *g*).

4. I think it's impossible to really know whether an actor was staring soulfully into his co-star's eyes and willing the audience to believe this was True Love, or if he was staring at a wig on a stick for the tenth take that morning, willing the director to yell "Cut!" so he could go grab some lunch.

5. I know that a (TV/movie) character is not created by just one person – so while I will be interested in one person (actor, director, writer, editor...)'s take on that character, and it may make me look at them differently, I won't necessarily take it as an Ultimate Truth.

(5b. That said, I think it's a bit different for characters in books, because there's usually just one driving force behind their creation. But I still feel free to apply my own interpretation in the privacy of my own head, and on my own blog. Put your hand down, Ms. McCaffrey. Yes, you will be marked down for handing it in late, Ms. Rowling.)

6. The show as it is broadcast is the finished product, in my opinion, and anything else – going to all the conventions, talking to the actors, watching the cut scenes, owning the action figures, an in-depth knowledge of a subject that the show touches on – is gravy: nice, but ultimately not essential.

7. I believe that being an expert in a TV show is about as serious as a study of The Da Vinci Code. Which is to say, not at all. It's fiction, and acknowledged as such by the creators. That means they have a license to make shit up if the facts don't fit the storyline. In turn, fans have the freedom to interpret that how they like. (Yes, even the new Doctor Who fans, no matter how much I want to tell them to get off my lawn.)

8. I don't have to like someone's interpretation, but I don't believe that gives me the right to tell them they're wrong. They're not wrong; they just have a different opinion.

9. I do, however, want to be challenged if someone finds my interpretation in some way hurtful or damaging or sexist or racist or homophobic or ageist or sizist or... I choose my words because of their connotations, so ideally I'd like to know if those connotations differ significantly for other people. I don't want to perpetuate oppressive beliefs.

10. I would like for the above, particularly the last two, to apply in reverse.

Comments

rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:13 pm (UTC)
someday, if I'm a very good girl and eat all my greens, I'll understand.

Well, it is all about the broccoli ...

*ducks and runs*
pepper: Pepperpot (Default)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:28 pm (UTC)
:P

(At last, we discover why I'm not usually a slasher! I don't much like broccoli!)
zats_clear: (dresden files are you always a wiseass)
[personal profile] zats_clear wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:30 pm (UTC)
broccoli is quite delish with mayonnaise and a bit of lemon juice...
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:38 pm (UTC)
Or chargrilled with chili and garlic ...
pepper: Pepperpot (Gramophone)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:46 pm (UTC)
Is it wrong that I'm currently trying to work out what mayonnaise-and-lemon-juice and chargrilled-with-chili-and-garlic would be in fic terms?

(I think bondage may be involved in the second one...)

(ETA: Or maybe candle wax.)

Edited 2010-02-01 01:50 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:55 pm (UTC)
I know that overcooked mushy broccoli is clearly one of those epic multi-chapter WIPs with sobbing and pajamas and beagles.
pepper: Pepperpot (Dog)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 02:02 pm (UTC)
Ah, and only people who haven't experienced the true delights of a good stir-fry, and who are desperately in need of some greens, will eat that.

Logical extension is logical...
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 08:43 pm (UTC)
I think mayonnaise-and-lemon-juice is a long short story, with some angst and misunderstanding but also humour and ultimately a romantic happy ending. Ideally, it has been written by someone like [personal profile] astolat or [livejournal.com profile] nandamai.

Chargilled-with-chili-and-garlic is obviously darkfic with kink, yes. Ideally, it has been written by someone like [personal profile] synecdochic or [personal profile] ivorygates.

ETA: Possibly I am putting too much thought into this.

Edited 2010-02-01 08:43 pm (UTC)
pepper: Pepperpot (Default)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 10:04 pm (UTC)
Possibly I am putting too much thought into this.

You know, it is possible. *g* But I love logical extremes.

Apocafic could be... *looks up broccoli recipes*... hmm... smothered in cheese (potentially lethal, or at least very fattening)? Broccoli soup (whizzed to death in a blender)?
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 10:14 pm (UTC)
*ponders*

I'm thinking broccoli souffle, maybe? Combines "smothered in cheese" with the inherent disaster potential of any souffle.
pepper: Pepperpot (Default)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
I like it, I like it.

And also the fact that it sort of resembles a mushroom cloud.

Edited 2010-02-01 10:23 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 10:39 pm (UTC)
Oh, I hadn't even thought of the mushroom cloud thing. That's genius!
pepper: Pepperpot (Default)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:39 pm (UTC)
My partner's two-year-old niece adores broccoli. She can be a living test of the hypothesis, as she grows up. *g*
zats_clear: (sg-1 jack one ring)
[personal profile] zats_clear wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:29 pm (UTC)
May I please sign your manifesto? Perhaps we should call it a Declaration of Fandom, or the Magna Fandom LOL, but I wanna sign!
pepper: Mary Pickford with roses (Mary Pickford with roses)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 01:37 pm (UTC)
Bwah! Feel free. I think it's going to go in my profile.
abyssinia: Sam Carter's first view of Earth from space and the words "all my dreams" (Default)
[personal profile] abyssinia wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 03:46 pm (UTC)
(Yes, even the new Doctor Who fans, no matter how much I want to tell them to get off my lawn.)

A ha ha ha YES! :P
(it's not that I don't like the new Who, but I was raised on Tom Baker and Jack Pertwee and...the other one who got broadcast a lot in the States)

Also, I keep reading the other conversation and puzzling over what it means that I have yet to find a broccoli I don't like. Well, not so fond of it raw...

Yay manifestos!
pepper: Woman writing (Writing)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 03:55 pm (UTC)
Peter Davison (the one in the cricket outfit)? Or perhaps Sylvester McCoy (the short, plump Doctor with the question-mark umbrella)? And, ahem - that's Jon Pertwee. ;)

And, hee. Well, okay, so the broccoli analogy falls down. I had a feeling it might not work for everyone. *g*

*wonders what raw broccoli would be, in fic terms...*
abyssinia: Sam Carter's first view of Earth from space and the words "all my dreams" (Default)
[personal profile] abyssinia wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 04:00 pm (UTC)
I think Peter Davison. Cricket outfit sounds familiar. And *headdesk* "Jack" didn't sound right. I blame fandom and too darn many Jack's and John's. (oddly I know very few of either in real life)

Who stopped being broadcast much by the time I was 9 or so, so it's most vague memories of goofy English people running around outside, the tardis, and daleks :)

Until that 1996 American-made movie that I was all excited for and...*shudders*

Hm. Maybe raw broccoli is apocafic - for when you don't have time/ability to cook it?
pepper: Pepperpot (Default)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 04:15 pm (UTC)
*♥ Peter Davison*

I did enjoy the 1996 movie, but more despite than because. It hit me just at the right time, and I fell headlong into DW fandom for a while (I watched it when I was a kid, but I was too young for fandom when Peter Davison was doing it, and I was too upset by his regeneration to give my heart to the subsequent two Doctors). The books and audio dramas that followed were bloody good, too. I had to give up on them because they were too time- and money-consuming, but they really fleshed out the Eighth Doctor.

Maybe raw broccoli is apocafic

Hmm, yes, could be... and it's certainly not to everyone's taste...
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
But apocafic is tasty!

Surely raw broccoli is those fics where you can see the potential for a completely brilliant story, except that the author has been too lazy/busy to actually write it and has tossed off a half-arsed sketch instead.
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
[personal profile] rydra_wong wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 09:23 pm (UTC)
Peter Davison (the one in the cricket outfit)?

WITH A STICK OF CELERY IN HIS TOP POCKET. Definitive proof that it's all about the vegetables!
pepper: Pepperpot (Pepperpot)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 10:00 pm (UTC)
Oh my god, so it is!

*sporfle*
aurora_novarum: (SG-1 OTP)
[personal profile] aurora_novarum wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 04:37 pm (UTC)
I believe that being an expert in a TV show is about as serious as a study of The Da Vinci Code. Which is to say, not at all.

Wait, it's not serious business? *sigh* Now you tell me. :-D

I find other green vegetables are getting the short shrift in favor of broccoli. What about spinich, or asparagas (if ever a phallic vegetable...--maybe that's the PWP)
pepper: Pepperpot (OT3)
[personal profile] pepper wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
Oh my god, you like ASPARAGUS! You shameless hussy!!!

Yes, well, I say fandom's not serius bizness, but then I go write a manifesto about it, so... take from that what you will. *g*

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